I don't think we should be worried,Fabs record of letting the audience know ahead of time of drastic changes speaks for itself.Loving the way the Ginny story is going! An they (Legiocomix) are listening to the feedback we send in and addressing the incomplete stories that was pointed out a few posts back.
First: Karateartist, for the way you keep replying all the people who express doubt or disdain about our latest works, I think that soon we'll have to start to pay you for all your PR. ^^ Thanks for explain things for everyone, 99% of the times you are right - and most of the time I don't answer its because I thik that the matter is apparently clear enough.
Hentai Judge: as for the rumors, I didn't answered them because they were made by an anonymous, and I really think that somebody who hides behind anonimity isn't somebody who worths a proper answer. People like you, like karateartist, almost everyone here have the work of log in and give us your feedback, even its easier don't do it. And we appreciate that. Somebody who just comes on out of the blue, not even logs in, and start a gossip isn't somebody I care, nor somebody in position to demand an answer.
About FLAA Nation, the truth is that we are, lets say, 'dating', or 'flirting'. We belong to Xposh network, the same network that has artists like johnpersons, jab and kinky jimmy. We just know Kinky Jimmy, he was the one who set us to Xposh. We don't know the others, despite all my tries to talk to them. Since we joined this network, I couldn't even get a free acess to johnpersons - our webmster says his to careful on give them. So far, ok. Its business. In the other hand, from FLAA Nation who do we know, who are the artists we, legio, keep in touch? Right now on my MSN screen I can see Dmitrys, Cyberunique, White-Devil and Tekuho. It seems that Scratch is offline. I talk to them all the time, so we have a close connection to them. Some of them granted me acess to their websites - see the differences between behaviours here? In one side we have indifference, in another, friendship. None of them ever complained us about their business. Their websites look fine, and are running pretty well so far. So, personally, I don't see anything bad about FLAA. They are our friends, and keep asking us to join them there. So thats why I'm saying "we're dating". I won't say here that we'll never leave xposh - there's also lots of stuff that happens between us and our webmaster - but I'll never also say we'll stay with xposh forever. In ANY case, our major worry will be always the costumers and the fans. If anything happens, it will be our job to grant that you people are pleased with the outcome. And any decision we take will be for the greater good, not only ours, but yours aswell.
So here comes my question: whats so bad in FLAA network? Why wouldnt you recomend it to us?
I should field this question since I believe my comments put HentaiJudge on edge. I had several issues when it came to FLAA. One of the biggest problems that site has is lack of new content when you sign up it says that the artist update weekly but that was never the case I found that most sites were putting out 2 images a month. I found that many of the artist gave members attitude if they commented on something negatively or had a complaint about late or lack of updates the artist gave the impression that he is in fact doing you a favor for even making his art. When I was a member the artist that I joined to see went on a vacation for a month and did not tell his members and even the network owner did not say anything when he came back he went on a rant about he deserved a vacation and there are other sites here too you could of looked at.I found that very disrespectful that people are paying for his content not the others many people are there because they like one of the artist and could care less about the others. I feel that with so many other artist there,many of the artist rely to heavily that members like all there styles as well and that they can be late with there updates or fail to update all together.
When I left after my 6 month membership I said that I would not go back because it was run very amateurly. I hope that you do not go join with them because I would hate to see you and your team become like them.
Was a member for 3 months will say this to anyone thinking of joining. Yes Rios is right many updates will be late and do not expect to get 4 a month from any artist there. Other then that I find F.L.A.A nation is only good for a quick one month trail then wait 6 to 8 months to do the same. With the slow updates there is no point to join long term as I did.
I might be one of the few that likes the return of Ginny and Jenni
I can't counter argue that, but I think, IMHO, that the fault is not from the network, but the artists's. Maybe they reached a comfort zone and settled, meybe they are just lazy - dunno - but in any case, we're far from that. We don't have enough members in legiocomix to mantain ourselves, thats the sad truth - we're forced to look for work in other websites, doing comics, doing commissions. Our dream is to redirect all that work to legiocomix - you see, while we do these updates, and even when people say THIS WAS A WEAK WEEK, while there WERE updates, we were WORKING doing comics to another website, and commissions, and the material for updates. Just wonder if we could make these pages and pin-ups JUST for the website. Thats what we aim. So if we joined their network, and they increased the number of memberships, that would only help us to divert the work from other places to here, and that's what matters most. The equation, for us, is simple: more members=more updates.
Well I am sad to here the state the site is in. Honestly I do not know if joining a network will help you or not. I am under the impression that you only make money if the member signs up under your site. I do know that you will not be one of those sites that in all honesty wastes there members money by putting out barley an updates. I do think its an up hill battle even if you do join I have seen the ads they put out for the network and they seem to only promote the "big four" if you will being Cutepet, Dmitrys, Jiggly Girls and Hentai Tna. With all the ad money going to promote those sites I do not know how it will help you gain members or if newbies will only go and join those sites. When I was there Vanillia Dolls just opeaned and with in a few months it had left the network.
Its not hard to see that I am against the idea of you guys joining the network. I am only trying to show you the other side of the coin before you make your final desision.
Nor do I know if it would help us. ^^ They have, in fact, more visibility. I see banners of them around in many places, different from us.
Another thing that doesn't help the situation is that our relation to our webmaster isn't one of the best - while FLAA webmaster pays and floods places with his ads, xposh webmaster doesn't do that, and even said WE should pay for any advertises. Legiocomix answers for just 3% (exactly, three percent) of all his network - jab is around 53% and johnpersons 42% - so he probably doesn't see why invest in us. If we joined flaa, we would be probably 10% of his network - and this number is more spread in many artists - despite dmitrys answer for almost 50% of his numbers, we would be more leveled to the other artists there. Then the more equal are your artists, more reasons you have to preomote them equally. Thats what we think, in terms of numbers. As for keeping updates, I don't see any reason why to join flaa would make us drop them.
This is a very interesting conversation. I thought it would have more flaming - but is being very well handled. ^^
Oh no Fabs I respect you and the team too much to be rude and cause a huge uproar over this or to attack anyone, I just want to be the opposition so you think of it from both sides.
Ya your webmaster certainly does not help if he does not pay or even help you promote your site. Are you sure that the FLAA webmaster pays for the ads? or does he just take it from your membership revenue? that may be something you want to look into.
Once again sorry your site looks to be a little fish in a HUGE pond. I understand that your optimistic that with FLAA you will be in a smaller pond and hope to look a little bigger. All I can really tell you is what I saw when FLAA promoted on G.e-hentai.com and I noticed that it was mostly the "big four" then occasionally it would be Manasworld. So I do not know how much will time your banner will be shown. Personally I felt that it should be the other way with the "big four" taking a backseat to the new site so they have a shot of growing.
As I have said in earlier posts I did not enjoy my time as a member of Flaa. I found it to be run like it was someones hobby and not like as a business. So I do find it hard to support the move. I hope you do not think less of me because of that, It was an unpleasent experience.
KungFuHustle: What karate said, but also karate doesn't have acess to any special info - I believe he simply paid attention to what I wrote in previous posts, probably before you start to post around. ;) And the pages we're working are both power girl story AND Monday. Somebody complained that we never finish our stories, so we decided to resume Monday, and we are WAY closer to end Monday than PG. ;)
Big problem that I see is that many do not care if these stories are finshed. They did not want the Powergirl comic to be trapped in limbo with the unfinshed ones that what they (including me) were saying.
I am enjoying the Ginny comic but it is not my favorite. Hope to see Powergirl again soon.
The big problem I see is that if people didn't care about the unfinished stories, they shouldn't have mentioned them in the first place. Now we don't want to keep giving people any reasons to doubt if we'll finish a story - we'll wrap up all of them. None will be left behind - and you can see we bought back Ginny and Jenni - and, oh god, how I regret to give them these names; Kras and I keep mistaking them for each other. ><
I hope this cat fight leads to something sexy ;)
ReplyDeletePs. Fabs did you take a look at the comments from the last update? There was some rumors being talked about wondering if I should be worried?
I don't think we should be worried,Fabs record of letting the audience know ahead of time of drastic changes speaks for itself.Loving the way the Ginny story is going! An they (Legiocomix) are listening to the feedback we send in and addressing the incomplete stories that was pointed out a few posts back.
DeleteFirst: Karateartist, for the way you keep replying all the people who express doubt or disdain about our latest works, I think that soon we'll have to start to pay you for all your PR. ^^ Thanks for explain things for everyone, 99% of the times you are right - and most of the time I don't answer its because I thik that the matter is apparently clear enough.
DeleteHentai Judge: as for the rumors, I didn't answered them because they were made by an anonymous, and I really think that somebody who hides behind anonimity isn't somebody who worths a proper answer. People like you, like karateartist, almost everyone here have the work of log in and give us your feedback, even its easier don't do it. And we appreciate that. Somebody who just comes on out of the blue, not even logs in, and start a gossip isn't somebody I care, nor somebody in position to demand an answer.
About FLAA Nation, the truth is that we are, lets say, 'dating', or 'flirting'. We belong to Xposh network, the same network that has artists like johnpersons, jab and kinky jimmy. We just know Kinky Jimmy, he was the one who set us to Xposh. We don't know the others, despite all my tries to talk to them. Since we joined this network, I couldn't even get a free acess to johnpersons - our webmster says his to careful on give them. So far, ok. Its business. In the other hand, from FLAA Nation who do we know, who are the artists we, legio, keep in touch? Right now on my MSN screen I can see Dmitrys, Cyberunique, White-Devil and Tekuho. It seems that Scratch is offline. I talk to them all the time, so we have a close connection to them. Some of them granted me acess to their websites - see the differences between behaviours here? In one side we have indifference, in another, friendship. None of them ever complained us about their business. Their websites look fine, and are running pretty well so far. So, personally, I don't see anything bad about FLAA. They are our friends, and keep asking us to join them there. So thats why I'm saying "we're dating". I won't say here that we'll never leave xposh - there's also lots of stuff that happens between us and our webmaster - but I'll never also say we'll stay with xposh forever. In ANY case, our major worry will be always the costumers and the fans. If anything happens, it will be our job to grant that you people are pleased with the outcome. And any decision we take will be for the greater good, not only ours, but yours aswell.
So here comes my question: whats so bad in FLAA network? Why wouldnt you recomend it to us?
I should field this question since I believe my comments put HentaiJudge on edge. I had several issues when it came to FLAA. One of the biggest problems that site has is lack of new content when you sign up it says that the artist update weekly but that was never the case I found that most sites were putting out 2 images a month. I found that many of the artist gave members attitude if they commented on something negatively or had a complaint about late or lack of updates the artist gave the impression that he is in fact doing you a favor for even making his art. When I was a member the artist that I joined to see went on a vacation for a month and did not tell his members and even the network owner did not say anything when he came back he went on a rant about he deserved a vacation and there are other sites here too you could of looked at.I found that very disrespectful that people are paying for his content not the others many people are there because they like one of the artist and could care less about the others. I feel that with so many other artist there,many of the artist rely to heavily that members like all there styles as well and that they can be late with there updates or fail to update all together.
DeleteWhen I left after my 6 month membership I said that I would not go back because it was run very amateurly. I hope that you do not go join with them because I would hate to see you and your team become like them.
Was a member for 3 months will say this to anyone thinking of joining. Yes Rios is right many updates will be late and do not expect to get 4 a month from any artist there. Other then that I find F.L.A.A nation is only good for a quick one month trail then wait 6 to 8 months to do the same. With the slow updates there is no point to join long term as I did.
DeleteI might be one of the few that likes the return of Ginny and Jenni
I can't counter argue that, but I think, IMHO, that the fault is not from the network, but the artists's. Maybe they reached a comfort zone and settled, meybe they are just lazy - dunno - but in any case, we're far from that. We don't have enough members in legiocomix to mantain ourselves, thats the sad truth - we're forced to look for work in other websites, doing comics, doing commissions. Our dream is to redirect all that work to legiocomix - you see, while we do these updates, and even when people say THIS WAS A WEAK WEEK, while there WERE updates, we were WORKING doing comics to another website, and commissions, and the material for updates. Just wonder if we could make these pages and pin-ups JUST for the website. Thats what we aim. So if we joined their network, and they increased the number of memberships, that would only help us to divert the work from other places to here, and that's what matters most. The equation, for us, is simple: more members=more updates.
DeleteWell I am sad to here the state the site is in. Honestly I do not know if joining a network will help you or not. I am under the impression that you only make money if the member signs up under your site. I do know that you will not be one of those sites that in all honesty wastes there members money by putting out barley an updates. I do think its an up hill battle even if you do join I have seen the ads they put out for the network and they seem to only promote the "big four" if you will being Cutepet, Dmitrys, Jiggly Girls and Hentai Tna. With all the ad money going to promote those sites I do not know how it will help you gain members or if newbies will only go and join those sites. When I was there Vanillia Dolls just opeaned and with in a few months it had left the network.
DeleteIts not hard to see that I am against the idea of you guys joining the network. I am only trying to show you the other side of the coin before you make your final desision.
Nor do I know if it would help us. ^^ They have, in fact, more visibility. I see banners of them around in many places, different from us.
DeleteAnother thing that doesn't help the situation is that our relation to our webmaster isn't one of the best - while FLAA webmaster pays and floods places with his ads, xposh webmaster doesn't do that, and even said WE should pay for any advertises. Legiocomix answers for just 3% (exactly, three percent) of all his network - jab is around 53% and johnpersons 42% - so he probably doesn't see why invest in us. If we joined flaa, we would be probably 10% of his network - and this number is more spread in many artists - despite dmitrys answer for almost 50% of his numbers, we would be more leveled to the other artists there. Then the more equal are your artists, more reasons you have to preomote them equally. Thats what we think, in terms of numbers. As for keeping updates, I don't see any reason why to join flaa would make us drop them.
This is a very interesting conversation. I thought it would have more flaming - but is being very well handled. ^^
Oh no Fabs I respect you and the team too much to be rude and cause a huge uproar over this or to attack anyone, I just want to be the opposition so you think of it from both sides.
DeleteYa your webmaster certainly does not help if he does not pay or even help you promote your site. Are you sure that the FLAA webmaster pays for the ads? or does he just take it from your membership revenue? that may be something you want to look into.
Once again sorry your site looks to be a little fish in a HUGE pond. I understand that your optimistic that with FLAA you will be in a smaller pond and hope to look a little bigger. All I can really tell you is what I saw when FLAA promoted on G.e-hentai.com and I noticed that it was mostly the "big four" then occasionally it would be Manasworld. So I do not know how much will time your banner will be shown. Personally I felt that it should be the other way with the "big four" taking a backseat to the new site so they have a shot of growing.
As I have said in earlier posts I did not enjoy my time as a member of Flaa. I found it to be run like it was someones hobby and not like as a business. So I do find it hard to support the move. I hope you do not think less of me because of that, It was an unpleasent experience.
What happened to the superhero comics?
ReplyDeleteThey're still working on them,when they get enough pages done to start releasing them weekly again then they'll start posting them again.
DeleteAny idea if the pages they're working on are a continuation of the Power Girl story? I sure hope they are.
DeleteThanks for the info, BTW.
KungFuHustle: What karate said, but also karate doesn't have acess to any special info - I believe he simply paid attention to what I wrote in previous posts, probably before you start to post around. ;) And the pages we're working are both power girl story AND Monday. Somebody complained that we never finish our stories, so we decided to resume Monday, and we are WAY closer to end Monday than PG. ;)
DeleteBig problem that I see is that many do not care if these stories are finshed. They did not want the Powergirl comic to be trapped in limbo with the unfinshed ones that what they (including me) were saying.
ReplyDeleteI am enjoying the Ginny comic but it is not my favorite. Hope to see Powergirl again soon.
The big problem I see is that if people didn't care about the unfinished stories, they shouldn't have mentioned them in the first place. Now we don't want to keep giving people any reasons to doubt if we'll finish a story - we'll wrap up all of them. None will be left behind - and you can see we bought back Ginny and Jenni - and, oh god, how I regret to give them these names; Kras and I keep mistaking them for each other. ><
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